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Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » [I] Childcare arrangments
| [I] Childcare arrangments [message #288375] |
Fr, 16 Juni 2006 16:40 |
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I'm a stay-at-home-mother (Mondays home, Tuesdays swimming, Wednesdays
playgroup, Thursdays hosting toddler group at home, Fridays library,
Saturdays painting sessions, that kind of "at home").
Occasionally I have medical appointments to which I cannot bring my
daughter. These are almost all during the regular working week, of
course, which means that babysitters aren't available. And I have
recently discovered that when Daddy and Mammy both have appointments
at the same time, there is no childcare, and someone has to miss out.
Regular weekly sessions, easy to arrange - but not what we need at all.
Intermittent hour-long drop-in creches? Very hard to find. It took us
over 90 minutes of web searching and phonecalls to find one open four
hours a day.
Hurrah! Now I can go to the dentist!
A.
Er...
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| Re: [I] Childcare arrangments [message #288377 ] |
Fr, 16 Juni 2006 16:53 |
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Ailbhe wrote:
> I'm a stay-at-home-mother (Mondays home, Tuesdays swimming, Wednesdays
> playgroup, Thursdays hosting toddler group at home, Fridays library,
> Saturdays painting sessions, that kind of "at home").
>
> Occasionally I have medical appointments to which I cannot bring my
> daughter. These are almost all during the regular working week, of
> course, which means that babysitters aren't available. And I have
> recently discovered that when Daddy and Mammy both have appointments
> at the same time, there is no childcare, and someone has to miss out.
>
> Regular weekly sessions, easy to arrange - but not what we need at all.
> Intermittent hour-long drop-in creches? Very hard to find. It took us
> over 90 minutes of web searching and phonecalls to find one open four
> hours a day.
>
> Hurrah! Now I can go to the dentist!
>
> A.
> Er...
Amen!
I was a stay at home mom for... well, years. The better part of 10.
And after 9 months of fulltime school, I get one last glorious summer
of stay at homeness. I have much experience at this, and finding an
occasional sitter is a nightmare!
The thing that I'll suggest and has worked best is that you have
talked about many things you do which involve interaction with other
small ones and parents thereof. Working out an agreement to child swap
on occasion is the best solution ever to the problem.
I've worked out with friends that we swap on occasion, which works
more or less depending on who has to work when.
Best of luck on it, I certainly do appreciate the difficulty!
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| Re: [I] Childcare arrangments [message #288386 ] |
Fr, 16 Juni 2006 17:12 |
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peachy ashie passion <exquisitepeach [at] hotmail.com> wrote
(on Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:53:30 GMT):
> Ailbhe wrote:
> > Regular weekly sessions, easy to arrange - but not what we need at all.
> > Intermittent hour-long drop-in creches? Very hard to find. It took us
> > over 90 minutes of web searching and phonecalls to find one open four
> > hours a day.
> >
> > Hurrah! Now I can go to the dentist!
> The thing that I'll suggest and has worked best is that you have
> talked about many things you do which involve interaction with other
> small ones and parents thereof. Working out an agreement to child swap
> on occasion is the best solution ever to the problem.
Unforunately, my usual swap-partner's youngest child has recently
stopped sleeping. Ever, pretty much. So right now, she will say yes
but it might kill her.
I need her alive for when I give birth in August.
A.
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| Re: [I] Childcare arrangments [message #288461 ] |
Fr, 16 Juni 2006 21:46 |
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Ailbhe wrote:
> peachy ashie passion <exquisitepeach [at] hotmail.com> wrote
> (on Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:53:30 GMT):
>> Ailbhe wrote:
>
>> > Regular weekly sessions, easy to arrange - but not what we need
>> at all. > Intermittent hour-long drop-in creches? Very hard to
>> find. It took us > over 90 minutes of web searching and
>> phonecalls to find one open four > hours a day.
>> >
>> > Hurrah! Now I can go to the dentist!
>
>> The thing that I'll suggest and has worked best is that you
>> have talked about many things you do which involve interaction
>> with other small ones and parents thereof. Working out an
>> agreement to child swap on occasion is the best solution ever to
>> the problem.
>
> Unforunately, my usual swap-partner's youngest child has recently
> stopped sleeping. Ever, pretty much. So right now, she will say yes
> but it might kill her.
>
> I need her alive for when I give birth in August.
Sympathy--the ex and I have no network at all. It's either him or me.
--
4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse, AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons,
Bondage-happy predator, Speaker-To-Students, SadoMangoist,
AFPMistress to peachy, 8'FED's AFPDeliciousSnack, AFPFiance to A.
Nevill , Graycat's Guttersnipe
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| Re: [I] Childcare arrangments [message #288517 ] |
Fr, 16 Juni 2006 23:13 |
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Anastasia <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote
(on Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:46:51 GMT):
> Ailbhe wrote:
> > I need her alive for when I give birth in August.
>
> Sympathy--the ex and I have no network at all. It's either him or me.
That would make our relationship counselling appointments difficult.
(So which of you works nights?)
A.
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| Re: [I] Childcare arrangments [message #288539 ] |
Sa, 17 Juni 2006 00:01 |
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Ailbhe wrote:
> Anastasia <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote
> (on Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:46:51 GMT):
>> Ailbhe wrote:
>
>> > I need her alive for when I give birth in August.
>>
>> Sympathy--the ex and I have no network at all. It's either him or
>> me.
>
> That would make our relationship counselling appointments difficult.
>
> (So which of you works nights?)
Neither, but for a while . . . no, wait, that's no longer true. I teach
evenings now, and teaching college means that a great deal of your time is
flexible--I only spend 5 hours a week in class, divided between two days.
But the major thing was that we have a child in the Y. Public School System,
and my former hussband is a teacher in the same system, and I am a teacher
with a loong commute to campus.
The kids would get out early to allow time for teachers' meetings, which
meant that on days our son got out early, his father had to stay late.
The end result is that it isn't a problem often, but when it is, it is
*really* a problem.
--
4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse, AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons,
Bondage-happy predator, Speaker-To-Students, SadoMangoist,
AFPMistress to peachy, 8'FED's AFPDeliciousSnack, AFPFiance to A.
Nevill , Graycat's Guttersnipe
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| Re: [I] Childcare arrangments [message #288809 ] |
Sa, 17 Juni 2006 21:35 |
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Ailbhe wrote:
> I'm a stay-at-home-mother
<big snip of explanation of problem and part solution, culminating in>
>
> Hurrah! Now I can go to the dentist!
Congratulations. Though I don't *quite* see the problem w.r.t.
dentists. Ever since Patricia was born, going to the Dentist was a
family affair, i.e. we'd all go - get all of us sorted in one go.
One of the side effects of this is that Patricia is *not* afraid of the
dentist. She still sees the point in cleaning her teeth properly; by
comparing the fillings in my teeth to her own pearly white undamaged stuff.
TTFN,
Reinier.
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| Re: [I] Childcare arrangments [message #288831 ] |
Sa, 17 Juni 2006 22:45 |
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On 17/06/2006 20:35, Jennifer & Reinier Sjouw wrote:
> Ailbhe wrote:
>> I'm a stay-at-home-mother
> <big snip of explanation of problem and part solution, culminating in>
>> Hurrah! Now I can go to the dentist!
> Congratulations. Though I don't *quite* see the problem w.r.t.
> dentists. Ever since Patricia was born, going to the Dentist was a
> family affair, i.e. we'd all go - get all of us sorted in one go.
> One of the side effects of this is that Patricia is *not* afraid of the
> dentist. She still sees the point in cleaning her teeth properly; by
> comparing the fillings in my teeth to her own pearly white undamaged stuff.
That is assuming you get apointments for all of you at the same time,
and that is just the check up! If just one of you has to return for a
repeat appointment...
We usually try and get the 3 of us to go at the same time, at least
initially. Though on one of my follow-ups I was glad Kai **wasn't**
with me. Having the drill *bit* (ok no pun intended) fly out of the
dentists drill and into my cheek was not a pleasant experience.
I was still in shock 30 minutes later after walking home.
elfin
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| Re: [I] Childcare arrangments [message #288986 ] |
So, 18 Juni 2006 12:54 |
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On 16 Jun 2006 14:40:12 GMT, Ailbhe <ailbhe [at] lspace.org>
jotted down:
>I'm a stay-at-home-mother (Mondays home, Tuesdays swimming, Wednesdays
>playgroup, Thursdays hosting toddler group at home, Fridays library,
>Saturdays painting sessions, that kind of "at home").
>
>Occasionally I have medical appointments to which I cannot bring my
>daughter. These are almost all during the regular working week, of
>course, which means that babysitters aren't available. And I have
>recently discovered that when Daddy and Mammy both have appointments
>at the same time, there is no childcare, and someone has to miss out.
>
>Regular weekly sessions, easy to arrange - but not what we need at all.
>Intermittent hour-long drop-in creches? Very hard to find. It took us
>over 90 minutes of web searching and phonecalls to find one open four
>hours a day.
>
>Hurrah! Now I can go to the dentist!
Possibly you could try to meet some friendly child-safe
students - we often have flexible/irregular schedules and an
ability to come around at short notice. At least in Sweden.
I'd have offered to be a standby baby-sitter (I do it for a
friend who's a single mum here) if it wasn't such a long
commute :o)
--
Elin
The Tale of Westala and Villtin
http://tale.cunobaros.com/
The Oswalds DW casting award - Vote Now!
http://www.student.lu.se/~his02ero/Oswald/index.html
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| Re: [I] Childcare arrangments [message #289004 ] |
So, 18 Juni 2006 13:55 |
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"elfin" <elfin [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:e71re0$22he$1 [at] mud.stack.nl...
> On 17/06/2006 20:35, Jennifer & Reinier Sjouw wrote:
>
> We usually try and get the 3 of us to go at the same time, at least
> initially. Though on one of my follow-ups I was glad Kai **wasn't** with
> me. Having the drill *bit* (ok no pun intended) fly out of the dentists
> drill and into my cheek was not a pleasant experience.
>
> I was still in shock 30 minutes later after walking home.
>
> elfin
ouch.
It would shake my confidence in the driller. And cuts in the mouth are
always so sore. Poor you.
I had a "gang's all here" blood donation last week. I impulsively went in to
donate and then noticed I had all the children with me, well 80% Of whom 30%
are fairly sensible, 30% getting so and 20% no sense at all. They ate their
body weight in the free crisps and sweets but were drawn to the gurney once
I got hooked up. One little ghoul was very interested in the colour,
remarking cherrily that it was sort of darker than she'd thought and not
bright red like in movies and she'd know now what colour to do in her
drawings and wow there was a lot in the big bag wasn't there. My disabled
girl carried on a big conversational loop about grandpa in hospital and
sports day and a few other things, at about 70dbls. I don't mind giving
blood but I don't really like it either. I was torn between being glad I had
to be totally nonchalant and wishing I could whimper a bit. Kids on balance
thought it was a hoot with all you could eat, free pencils and things to
stick on your mobile phone. They spent most of the evening trying to
persuade the missing 20% who is old enough to donate what a wheeze it was
and how they'd all come and help
Louise
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| Re: [I] dental horror stories (Was Childcare arrangements) [message #289161 ] |
So, 18 Juni 2006 20:41 |
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elfin wrote:
> On 17/06/2006 20:35, Jennifer & Reinier Sjouw wrote:
>> Ailbhe wrote:
>>> I'm a stay-at-home-mother
>> <big snip of explanation of problem and part solution, culminating in>
>>> Hurrah! Now I can go to the dentist!
>> Congratulations. Though I don't *quite* see the problem w.r.t.
>> dentists. Ever since Patricia was born, going to the Dentist was a
>> family affair, i.e. we'd all go - get all of us sorted in one go.
>> One of the side effects of this is that Patricia is *not* afraid of
>> the dentist. She still sees the point in cleaning her teeth properly;
>> by comparing the fillings in my teeth to her own pearly white
>> undamaged stuff.
>
> That is assuming you get apointments for all of you at the same time,
> and that is just the check up! If just one of you has to return for a
> repeat appointment...
So far we've managed - even for the work ensuing the check-ups. The
only times the repeat visit was "just one", was me (for root canal + crown).
>
> We usually try and get the 3 of us to go at the same time, at least
> initially. Though on one of my follow-ups I was glad Kai **wasn't** with
> me. Having the drill *bit* (ok no pun intended) fly out of the dentists
> drill and into my cheek was not a pleasant experience.
Yikes! you really don't believe in half measures, do you?
>
> I was still in shock 30 minutes later after walking home.
I'm not surprised. I think I'd be looking for a different dentist.
hm. I usually get an anaesthetic when there's drill work, so I might
not even realise what has happened, initially.
>
> elfin
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| Re: [I] dental horror stories (Was Childcare arrangements) [message #289167 ] |
So, 18 Juni 2006 20:55 |
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Jennifer & Reinier Sjouw and other people wrote:
(dental horrors)
Oh thanks folks, I'm now really looking forward to my Wednesday
morning appointment :-(
It's only a routine checkup and my (NHS) dentist is pretty good,
I should be in and out in about 5 minutes :)
--
Dom
afpSlave to CCA
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| Re: [I] Childcare arrangments [message #289203 ] |
So, 18 Juni 2006 22:19 |
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Jennifer & Reinier Sjouw <sjouw_uitwijk [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote
(on Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:35:27 +0200):
> Ailbhe wrote:
> > I'm a stay-at-home-mother
> <big snip of explanation of problem and part solution, culminating in>
> >
> > Hurrah! Now I can go to the dentist!
> Congratulations. Though I don't *quite* see the problem w.r.t.
> dentists. Ever since Patricia was born, going to the Dentist was a
> family affair, i.e. we'd all go - get all of us sorted in one go.
> One of the side effects of this is that Patricia is *not* afraid of the
> dentist. She still sees the point in cleaning her teeth properly; by
> comparing the fillings in my teeth to her own pearly white undamaged stuff.
Linnea hates seeing me lying down to get an ultrasound; watchign me lying
down while I can't talk to her and things go buzz is highly likely to make
her unhappy. Plus our dentist won't see children until they're two anyway.
I'm not sure how you arrange for self and Rob to have appointments on the
same day, given that we haven't been able to get registered with the same
dentist, either.
But if we come up with a way around that, there's still "how to keep the
toddler still in a room full of interesting bits and pieces when there are
too many twists in the stairs to bring the buggy up". I could do it while
Rob was being treated, but not vice versa.
Though I have no idea why Linnea would be afraid of dentists, nor why
persuading her to brush her teeth might be a problem. I've never had any
trouble, even though neitehr of my parents had poor dental hygiene to use
as an example...
A.
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| Re: [I] Childcare arrangments [message #289340 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 15:40 |
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on 18/06/2006 21:19 Ailbhe said the following:
<snip>
> Though I have no idea why Linnea would be afraid of dentists, nor why
> persuading her to brush her teeth might be a problem. I've never had any
> trouble, even though neitehr of my parents had poor dental hygiene to use
> as an example...
Taking her to your dental appointments might not be the best of ideas.
Hearing Mummy yelp "Ow" at some point isn't likely to help. My mother
tried out this approach with my kid brother and I when we were about 3
and 5 respectively. Eveything went fine until the dentist slipped and
activated my mother's (admittedly very sensitve) gag reflex. Seeing your
mother throw up because of some stranger in a white coat didn't exactly
endear me to the dental profession as a whole.
Is there a Community Health centre nearby? Do they have a Community
dentist? I've had good experiences with community dentists and very
young children. For a start, the under-5's often come under their remit.
Secondly, they're keen to promote a positive attitude generally. As a
result, a couple of the early appointments just involved said child
chatting to the nice lady and getting to play with the chair buttons.
Might be worth asking?
esmi
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| Re: [I] Childcare arrangments [message #289375 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 18:05 |
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Ailbhe wrote:
> Jennifer & Reinier Sjouw <sjouw_uitwijk [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote
> (on Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:35:27 +0200):
>> Ailbhe wrote:
>> > I'm a stay-at-home-mother
>> <big snip of explanation of problem and part solution, culminating in>
>> >
>> > Hurrah! Now I can go to the dentist!
>> Congratulations. Though I don't *quite* see the problem w.r.t.
>> dentists. Ever since Patricia was born, going to the Dentist was a
>> family affair, i.e. we'd all go - get all of us sorted in one go.
>> One of the side effects of this is that Patricia is *not* afraid of the
>> dentist. She still sees the point in cleaning her teeth properly; by
>> comparing the fillings in my teeth to her own pearly white undamaged stuff.
>
> Linnea hates seeing me lying down to get an ultrasound; watchign me lying
> down while I can't talk to her and things go buzz is highly likely to make
> her unhappy. Plus our dentist won't see children until they're two anyway.
hm. that would be a problem. Ours is at least child-friendly, with
toys for 1+ and older in the waiting room, and the errrr... surgery?
operating theatre? has pictures on the wall and chair-sized models of
teeth & toothbrushes.
> I'm not sure how you arrange for self and Rob to have appointments on the
> same day, given that we haven't been able to get registered with the same
> dentist, either.
That is an even more convincing problem!
>
> But if we come up with a way around that, there's still "how to keep the
> toddler still in a room full of interesting bits and pieces when there are
> too many twists in the stairs to bring the buggy up". I could do it while
> Rob was being treated, but not vice versa.
Get a different dentist in a different location ? :-)
>
> Though I have no idea why Linnea would be afraid of dentists, nor why
> persuading her to brush her teeth might be a problem.
ah! In my early years I was told that if I didn't clean my teeth
properly, the dentist would come and hurt me. It took "a few" years for
the resulting problem to be solved; and it is a mistake I want to avoid
making. I'll probably replace it by a couple of dozens of mistakes of
my own, but hey...
TTFN
Reinier.
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| Re: [I] Childcare arrangments [message #289412 ] |
Mo, 19 Juni 2006 20:51 |
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esmi <esmi [at] lspace.org> wrote
(on Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:40:53 +0100):
> on 18/06/2006 21:19 Ailbhe said the following:
> <snip>
>
> > Though I have no idea why Linnea would be afraid of dentists, nor why
> > persuading her to brush her teeth might be a problem. I've never had any
> > trouble, even though neitehr of my parents had poor dental hygiene to use
> > as an example...
>
> Taking her to your dental appointments might not be the best of ideas.
> Hearing Mummy yelp "Ow" at some point isn't likely to help.
I'd forgotten that my dentist told me this too. Her daughter was born the
day before mine, so we chat a lot :)
> Is there a Community Health centre nearby? Do they have a Community
> dentist?
There are fewer and fewer NHS dentists accepting new patients now - the one
I have will take Linnea on and I ought to see to it.
A.
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